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former new hampshire governor john sununu is joining us now to tell us what governor romney needs to do to make a difference in this race. governor, great to have you here. welcome. >> it's nice to be here. happy saturday. >> happy saturday to you too. many are saying this first debate is a make or break moment for mitt romney. do you agree? >> well, look, i listened to the democratic representative that was on earlier, and i found it fascinating about the way they're trying to play down the president's chances in this. i guess they're really worried he'll have to talk without a teleprompter, and that certainly puts him at a disadvantage. i think mitt romney is going to go into this debate recognizing that it's an opportunity for america to see him standing side by side with the president, and america's going to have to judge which one of these two individuals they want to come and solve the problems that the president is leaving us. i think it's going to be an opportunity for the governor to show america that he cares about the problems of individuals and communities in the country,
former new hampshire governor john sununu is joining us now to tell us what governor romney needs to do to make a difference in this race. governor, great to have you here. welcome. >> it's nice to be here. happy saturday. >> happy saturday to you too. many are saying this first debate is a make or break moment for mitt romney. do you agree? >> well, look, i listened to the democratic representative that was on earlier, and i found it fascinating about the way they're trying...
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who has the most to lose, president obama or governor romney? >> certainly governor romney. the president ea's ahead. he's a good debater. this whole setting expectations by his team is very silly. he hasn't debated in a campaign recently, he's debated plenty. he knows hows to keep his cool on a national stage. the governor needs to turn the expectations around, and that's the problem he's having right now. he's got a lot of people saying, the debate's really going to change everything for him. it's his last chance. donors are going to go away if he doesn't do well. he's going to lose the support of establishment republicans who will start giving their money to senate candidates instead. it's a tremendous amount of pressure. so he's really got the expectations game that he's got to fulfill, and we'll see how he does. >> anne, this praise of mitt romney about an anecdote of being abandoned on a boat his hi grandkids. take a look and take a listen. >> i said, who's going to grab the rope? and i looked up, and there was mitt romney. so he pull ed me in, tied up th boat for me,
who has the most to lose, president obama or governor romney? >> certainly governor romney. the president ea's ahead. he's a good debater. this whole setting expectations by his team is very silly. he hasn't debated in a campaign recently, he's debated plenty. he knows hows to keep his cool on a national stage. the governor needs to turn the expectations around, and that's the problem he's having right now. he's got a lot of people saying, the debate's really going to change everything...
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governor romney came to the back of the plane yesterday. he told the reporters, look, they've got to convince people that their big ideas are the right big ideas. and that's not something you can do at a rally. no matter how big. they need the stage, they need to be up there, elevated, standing next to president obama to convince people to change their minds and give governor romney a second look. >> you mentioned the plane yesterday. i understand that the governor was also passing around a whole bunch of beef jerky. did you get some of the jerky, sir? did you get any of the beef jerky? >> i did get the beef jerky. if i've learned one thing, it's never pass up the opportunity to get something to eat. >> garrett hake, traveling with the romney campaign. as always, i appreciate your time. >> my pleasure. >>> an unemployment rate above 8%. more than half the country saying that they're worse off today than they were four years ago, in a new cnbc poll, and a national deficit that will pass the $1 trillion mark tomorrow for the fiscal year for t
governor romney came to the back of the plane yesterday. he told the reporters, look, they've got to convince people that their big ideas are the right big ideas. and that's not something you can do at a rally. no matter how big. they need the stage, they need to be up there, elevated, standing next to president obama to convince people to change their minds and give governor romney a second look. >> you mentioned the plane yesterday. i understand that the governor was also passing around...
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the romney campaign -- governor romney has spent a lot of time practicing. he did five full mock debates. and he has lined up senator rob portman from ohio to play barack obama, the same person who played senator obama four years ago and advisers say he is letting him have it. gwen: wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall? >> it is a final time for governor romney to reset the race or get people to take a second look. millions of people will be watching the debate. it is way too early to judge anything. it is probably premature to be voting without watching. gwen: on that point, a lot of people -- there are only a very narrow sliver of people who say they are undecided. not surprising that people don't use the debates to decide but use it for something else. >> that's right. most people will go into these debates, if you like obama, you will think he did a debate job. romney has said that he wants to use the debates as a clarifying moment. he thinks the democrats have waged an inaccurate campaign. he has said he expects obama to tell more untruths on the d
the romney campaign -- governor romney has spent a lot of time practicing. he did five full mock debates. and he has lined up senator rob portman from ohio to play barack obama, the same person who played senator obama four years ago and advisers say he is letting him have it. gwen: wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall? >> it is a final time for governor romney to reset the race or get people to take a second look. millions of people will be watching the debate. it is way too early...
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now governor romney is out saying his plan to overhaul our massive tax code will put more money back in your pocket, but will it work? hi, everybody. welcome to "forbes on fox." steve, what do you think of this romney tax plan? >> it increases take-home pay, middle class family, $2,000 extra in their take-home pay, and more importantly it reduces the price of doing work, being productive and taking risks. lowering that price, lowering tax rates. that's the way to get the economy going. worked for kennedy, for reagan, worked in the early part of the last decade. it will work again. >> we have to do something. since the recovery began, by the way, june 2009, household incomes are down 5.7%. that's since the recovery. when you're in a recovery, incomes are supposed to go up. >> yeah. what's disstressing and concerning is, at this point i don't know what governor romney has in mind. he's been saying all along he'll reduce taxes and shows up in ohio -- >> reducing tax rates. >> he shows up and says don't expect a huge tax cut, because what he's doing is lowering deductions and exemptions.
now governor romney is out saying his plan to overhaul our massive tax code will put more money back in your pocket, but will it work? hi, everybody. welcome to "forbes on fox." steve, what do you think of this romney tax plan? >> it increases take-home pay, middle class family, $2,000 extra in their take-home pay, and more importantly it reduces the price of doing work, being productive and taking risks. lowering that price, lowering tax rates. that's the way to get the economy...
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five% of governor romney's -- 95% of governor romney's voters said there was nothing that was going to change mayor mind. so how important are these debates? >> they are important to a small sliver of people who may or may not watch. i joke with my students it is like me and the world series, to be honest i have no idea who is likely to be in the world series. but the game comes i will show up at somebody's house, have a drink and popcorn and pick a team. they are both aiming at this small sliver in the middle, who may or may not even be paying attention. >> rick: not going to be your red sox and not going to be my phillies as far as the world series is concerned, unfortunately for both of us. is there one cammarata pain for home these debates are more important? the mainstream media has been saying if romney doesn't have a knock-out punch in debate one, it is over for him? this storyline has been perpetuated. are the debates more important for governor romney and less important for the president, what do you think? >> i think certainly, in light of the 47% brouhaha and the like, romne
five% of governor romney's -- 95% of governor romney's voters said there was nothing that was going to change mayor mind. so how important are these debates? >> they are important to a small sliver of people who may or may not watch. i joke with my students it is like me and the world series, to be honest i have no idea who is likely to be in the world series. but the game comes i will show up at somebody's house, have a drink and popcorn and pick a team. they are both aiming at this...
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governor romney, the primary debater versus governor romney the presidential debater. how are they going to be different? >> well, i think if he does what he did in florida, if he goes on offense, then, you know, he'll be the same debater that he was toward the end of the primary season. and that's what he needs to do. if he gets defensive, then i think that's a bad thing. so i think he'll go on offense, though. he certainly has a lot of material to work with. >> what do you think we're talking about wednesday morning, brett o'donnell? are we talking about how great of a performance he had or are we saying agh, this thing is probably over? >> no, first of all i think these could be great debates. you have two very capable debaters heading into the debates. and i think we're going to come out and learn more about the president's policies and learn that it was the president who is responsible for the economic conditions of millions of americans are suffering through right now. >> brett, i was going to give you the last line. i can't let it end there. richard, is that the
governor romney, the primary debater versus governor romney the presidential debater. how are they going to be different? >> well, i think if he does what he did in florida, if he goes on offense, then, you know, he'll be the same debater that he was toward the end of the primary season. and that's what he needs to do. if he gets defensive, then i think that's a bad thing. so i think he'll go on offense, though. he certainly has a lot of material to work with. >> what do you think...
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what's disstressing and concerning is, at this point i don't know what governor romney has in mind. he's been saying all along he'll reduce taxes and shows up in ohio -- >> reducing tax rates. >> he shows up and says don't expect a huge tax cut, because what he's doing is lowering deductions and exemptions. great. i wonder if somebody will get around to telling me what those deductions and exemptions are that he's going to lower. he's been running for president for seemingly half a century and none of us know what he plans to do. i may like it, but he hasn't told me. >> the bottom line of what he's going to do, minus the specifics, he's going to lower tax rates by 20% for all income groups and get rid of the special deals and deductions that some of the big guys get. >> well, you know, not only did median income fall, but economic growth was revised downward. david, we should be enjoying 4% growth, not minus 2% growth that we've had during the obama administration. rick, romney may have been running for president forever, but obama has been president for almost -- you know, for 3 1/
what's disstressing and concerning is, at this point i don't know what governor romney has in mind. he's been saying all along he'll reduce taxes and shows up in ohio -- >> reducing tax rates. >> he shows up and says don't expect a huge tax cut, because what he's doing is lowering deductions and exemptions. great. i wonder if somebody will get around to telling me what those deductions and exemptions are that he's going to lower. he's been running for president for seemingly half a...
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but it was blocked by someone in governor romney's party. an unnamed republican senator has put a hold on the cost of living adjustment to the surviving children and spouse's. the same bill is holding up the wounded in the war. governor romney, i realize you're having a hard time getting the training wheels off but here's an easy one, should someone from your own party lift that hold from those people, should the republican senator holding this up keep that hold in place or drop it. you're the leader of that party. do you have anything to say on this? 24 hours later it turns out governor romney does not have anything to say on this. but since that angry little report on this show last night, today whoever the republican senator was who was holding up that payment to veterans and their family, today that senator has decided not to do that anymore. it was not technical clay formal hold, it was the republican side in the senate refusing to give unanimous consent. but today a top republican senate aide told us that now they have found time to ge
but it was blocked by someone in governor romney's party. an unnamed republican senator has put a hold on the cost of living adjustment to the surviving children and spouse's. the same bill is holding up the wounded in the war. governor romney, i realize you're having a hard time getting the training wheels off but here's an easy one, should someone from your own party lift that hold from those people, should the republican senator holding this up keep that hold in place or drop it. you're the...
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here are a few, for mitt romney governor you have attacked the individual mandate requirement in the president's health care plan, but approved it for massachusetts, and you, newt gingrich, and the heritage foundation argued it was the key to sound health care economics until barack obama adopted explain why the individual mandate is no longer essential to health care economics. second question, put aside the language about foreign policy and the rhetoric about not apologizing, name who things you would do differently about iran and russia. and now for president obama the growth of our economy was downgraded to 1.#% rise in the gross domestic product. and in 2013 you will face the same divided congress as before. what will you do with no clear engine of growth out there. a second question by the president, every report by the financial crisis has been critical of your administration for not dealing with the mortgage crisis as part of a bigger resolution than the banks. what are you going to do to reboot conditions for homeowners who are still underwater. so never mind expectations. w
here are a few, for mitt romney governor you have attacked the individual mandate requirement in the president's health care plan, but approved it for massachusetts, and you, newt gingrich, and the heritage foundation argued it was the key to sound health care economics until barack obama adopted explain why the individual mandate is no longer essential to health care economics. second question, put aside the language about foreign policy and the rhetoric about not apologizing, name who things...
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but it was blocked by someone in governor romney's party. an unnamed republican senator has put a hold on the cost of living adjustment to the surviving spouse's and children's payment for soldiers killed in the war. the same hold is also affecting the disability payments to soldiers who are wounded in the war. some republican senator is blocking this. we don't know who. governor romney, here's a place to start. you are now the leader of the republican party. i realize you're having a hard time getting the training wheels off when it comes to nation 58 security. but here's an easy one, should that senator from your own party lift that hold on the cost of living adjustment to the payments to those people who we sort of owe it to? should a republican senator who is holding this up keep that hold in place or drop it? you're the leader of that party. do you have anything to say on this? 24 hours later it turns out governor romney does not have anything to say on this. but since that angry little report on this show last night, i will admit it, i
but it was blocked by someone in governor romney's party. an unnamed republican senator has put a hold on the cost of living adjustment to the surviving spouse's and children's payment for soldiers killed in the war. the same hold is also affecting the disability payments to soldiers who are wounded in the war. some republican senator is blocking this. we don't know who. governor romney, here's a place to start. you are now the leader of the republican party. i realize you're having a hard time...
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but it was blocked by someone in governor romney's party. an unnamed republican senator has put a hold on the cost of living adjustment to the surviving children and spouse's. the same bill is holding up the wounded in the war. some republican senator is blocking this. governor romney, i realize you're having a hard time getting the training wheels off when it comes to national security. but here's an easy one, should someone from your own party lift that hold from those people, should the republican senator holding this up keep that hold in place or drop it. you're the leader of that party. do you have anything to say on this? 24 hours later it turns out governor romney does not have anything to say on this. but since that angry little report on this show last night, today whoever the republican senator was who was holding up that payment to veterans and their family, today that senator has decided not to do that anymore. it was not technically a formal hold, it was the republican side in the senate refusing to give unanimous consent. but t
but it was blocked by someone in governor romney's party. an unnamed republican senator has put a hold on the cost of living adjustment to the surviving children and spouse's. the same bill is holding up the wounded in the war. some republican senator is blocking this. governor romney, i realize you're having a hard time getting the training wheels off when it comes to national security. but here's an easy one, should someone from your own party lift that hold from those people, should the...
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romney was up about nine points one month ago. remember their reelection with governor walker? he won by seven. is a stale conversation. it is not that it would. 25 points and one month? >> obama every election campaign knows they are in trouble with catholics. individual calls are going out telling blatant bias about the president's position saying he does not support abortion. is the most extreme president on that issue this country has ever seen. lou: thank you for your voices. angry liberal bill more is added again. he hates republicans republicans, president obama we have that next. the president's confusing lack of transparency on the murder of our ambassador. comparing benghazi to watergate. author of the amateur joins us. and karl rove among our guest next week. lou: united nations on a mission to become the tax master. considering new global taxes to transfer trillions of dollars. among the tax proposed remember secretary of state clinton is enthusiastic. one% tax on all billionaires' and all financial transactions carbon emissions, airline tickets she suggests she is
romney was up about nine points one month ago. remember their reelection with governor walker? he won by seven. is a stale conversation. it is not that it would. 25 points and one month? >> obama every election campaign knows they are in trouble with catholics. individual calls are going out telling blatant bias about the president's position saying he does not support abortion. is the most extreme president on that issue this country has ever seen. lou: thank you for your voices. angry...
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ohio governor john kasich is on the show and welcome. the polls show that mitt romney is trailing. how do you explain that and is that true. >> you know, paul i don't pay a lot of attention to polls because it depends on what they take and the sample. these guys have been in ohio and they should start paying income tax. this thing is as close can be they both wouldn't be here. i expect this to go down to the wire. we are always a swing state. it will be very close. >> paul: so the democrats are saying one of big things that is helping the spent the auto bailout. is that how you lead to to help the president? >> look, we're up 123,000 jobs over the last year and three-quarters. we're actually according to the bureau of labor statistics down 500 jobs, auto jobs in ohio. the situation. chrysler has expanded and ford and gm have shrunk their footprint but we stabilizing. auto industry out here. of the 123,000 jobs, most of them, biggest categories are business services and healthcare. we are having specialty manufacturing rebounds but it's hard to argue in fact the bureau of labor stat
ohio governor john kasich is on the show and welcome. the polls show that mitt romney is trailing. how do you explain that and is that true. >> you know, paul i don't pay a lot of attention to polls because it depends on what they take and the sample. these guys have been in ohio and they should start paying income tax. this thing is as close can be they both wouldn't be here. i expect this to go down to the wire. we are always a swing state. it will be very close. >> paul: so the...
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. >> we know that governor romney's been practicing for months. i think the invasion of normandy took less preparation than he's putting into these debates. >> he's articulate, smart. he did a great job in 2008 during that campaign as a debater. he had some tough debates with hillary clinton and he performed well. >> well, that was rob portman, of course, who has been prepping governor romney. before that, senior obama campaign advisor david axelrod. each has been working as though the entire campaign depends on what happens in next week's debate. the question is will it? we will talk about that in a moment. first, one indisputable truth, debates can make history. >> i have been -- >> september 26, 1960. the first televised presidential debate, signaling a new era where appearances matter more than ever and gaffes, however small, are magnified. >> the goals are the same for all americans. >> john f. kennedy, a young senator from massachusetts, facing off against vice president richard nixon, who is known to be a fierce debater. but on screen, kenn
. >> we know that governor romney's been practicing for months. i think the invasion of normandy took less preparation than he's putting into these debates. >> he's articulate, smart. he did a great job in 2008 during that campaign as a debater. he had some tough debates with hillary clinton and he performed well. >> well, that was rob portman, of course, who has been prepping governor romney. before that, senior obama campaign advisor david axelrod. each has been working as...
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>>> what makes it effective is governor romney's voice. and the fact that when you listen to the extended statement, you can make a plausible case that the tone was dismissive and so the ad reinforces something that people are inclined to believe about a republican, and they do it by showing you governor romney saying something and now a second factor comes into play. he said it in private. and when we're judging messages, we have these shortcuts that we just come to trust. politicians say things in public, i really want to know what they say in private. i'd like to know if they're the same thing. so we get something that supposedly was said in private to wealthy donors, we're more likely to think that it represents what the candidate actually thinks. remember how barack obama was hurt by the statement about clinging to guns and religion, same dynamic. what does he believe behind closed doors about you? and that's the other piece of that that's effective. you can identify with those people on the screen. and you can say even if you do pay
>>> what makes it effective is governor romney's voice. and the fact that when you listen to the extended statement, you can make a plausible case that the tone was dismissive and so the ad reinforces something that people are inclined to believe about a republican, and they do it by showing you governor romney saying something and now a second factor comes into play. he said it in private. and when we're judging messages, we have these shortcuts that we just come to trust. politicians...
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i do not think romney, governor romney has been more bellicose. what he has been clear about is the u.s. should be increasing pressure on the iranians every way it can. there should have been tougher sanctions in place sooner. we should have taken opportunities to stand and strengthen the iranian opposition to put pressure on the regime domestically, politically, which the united states did not do when it had this sort of once in a generation opportunity in june of 2009 and it should make the threat of military action credible. it's not to say that we're advocating for military action or even that we would use military action but we want the iranian leadership to believe that we are serious about military action and on all these fronts, on sanctions, on supporting the opposition within iran and conveying to the iranians that the alternative is military action, we have sent many mixed signals. it's been confusing and that's why we are where we are, where we're just not viewed as credible in the eyes of the iranian leadership. >> let me play a littl
i do not think romney, governor romney has been more bellicose. what he has been clear about is the u.s. should be increasing pressure on the iranians every way it can. there should have been tougher sanctions in place sooner. we should have taken opportunities to stand and strengthen the iranian opposition to put pressure on the regime domestically, politically, which the united states did not do when it had this sort of once in a generation opportunity in june of 2009 and it should make the...
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i made a prediction that president obama is going to lose the first debate to governor romney at least in the media's view. do you agree? >> i think that's the single debate he could lose and i think you are on the money, because until they are in there, it is often the case that the incumbent just hasn't gotten out of that bubble and gotten down off of the pedestal and faced that they have to fight for the job again. >> jennifer: i think five out of the six challengers in the last presidential debates were declared as the winner of the first debate because it's easier to knock the incumbent off because of that. if you had the opportunity to give him one piece of advise what would it be? >> don't ever treat this like it's two gladiators. if you go in there to defeat romney you loose. if you go in there to show that your policies are better than his policies, you win. it's not about being better smarter, quicker than romney. it's about policies that are better for the audience than romney's. you can almost like romney hate his policies and you are better off if you go in there because y
i made a prediction that president obama is going to lose the first debate to governor romney at least in the media's view. do you agree? >> i think that's the single debate he could lose and i think you are on the money, because until they are in there, it is often the case that the incumbent just hasn't gotten out of that bubble and gotten down off of the pedestal and faced that they have to fight for the job again. >> jennifer: i think five out of the six challengers in the last...
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i think one of the things that the romney team is looking for is simply for governor romney to reassure those same middle class voters you're talking about that he does understand what they need and does want the same things for them that they want. but in any poll you'd rather have the bigger number. there's no question about that. >> yeah, of course. karen, positive numbers here for the president. what does the obama camp really make of them? are they cautiously optimistic or are they just trying to put these numbers out of their mind? >> i think they're being very realistic about this. i think rich will appreciate this. we have to remember that polls are a snapshot in time. that's it. we cannot ever read too much into it whether it's a national poll or state-wide poll. they're good guideposts. they give us good information. certainly as rich said you'd rather have the bigger number. but i think they're very realistic about the point that there may be some inflation, although we don't think that that is the issue. i don't believe in the conspiracy theories that have been floated this
i think one of the things that the romney team is looking for is simply for governor romney to reassure those same middle class voters you're talking about that he does understand what they need and does want the same things for them that they want. but in any poll you'd rather have the bigger number. there's no question about that. >> yeah, of course. karen, positive numbers here for the president. what does the obama camp really make of them? are they cautiously optimistic or are they...
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there's a lot of things that could go right for governor romney. there will be two more debates, not election eve. having said this the fact that i don't think the debates will change a lot, the race is close. if there's a small change, even a couple points because of the debates that could be decisive. >> heather: there is the matter of real world matters as well in terms what is going on in the real world, surrounding these debates and the times they happen, right? >> exactly right. four years ago the reason nothing changed from this point on to the rest of the election, the debates didn't matter because we already had the wall street meltdown and candidates had reacted, real world events solidified 's solid lead. we haven't had an event like that but there's things percolating in the mideast that could shake-up the race, a couple more employment reports. if employment numbers and other economic indicators muddle along, then they won't change things that much. if there is a big shift in perceptions of the economy, that will have a bigger impact t
there's a lot of things that could go right for governor romney. there will be two more debates, not election eve. having said this the fact that i don't think the debates will change a lot, the race is close. if there's a small change, even a couple points because of the debates that could be decisive. >> heather: there is the matter of real world matters as well in terms what is going on in the real world, surrounding these debates and the times they happen, right? >> exactly...